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Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Do 8. Sep 2016, 20:16
von Freiwild225
hallo was ist jetzt genau der unterschied zwischen Dadant Blatt und Dadant Us ? gibt es da pberhaupt ein unterschied falls nein passen dan dadant blatt rähmchen in der Dadant US beute ?

Re: Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Fr 9. Sep 2016, 10:15
von honigdieb
Hi im us dadant hast du platz für 12 rämchen im dadantblatt passen 10 rämchen .
Der haupt unterschied sind die rämchen maße.

Us dadant brut 482x285 mm ,honig 482 x141 mm.

Dadantblatt brut 470 x300 mm, honig 470x 159 mm
Truss honigdieb

Re: Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Do 15. Sep 2016, 13:47
von BeeTV84
Und Dadant modifiziert = Dadant US 8-)

Re: Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Mo 24. Okt 2016, 14:41
von Nobs
Hallo Freiwild,

in beide Beuten passen 12 Rähmchen. Ich habe sowohl Dadant Blatt, als auch Dadant US. Der Unterschied liegt einzig und allein in der Abmessung der Rähmchen. US-Rähmchen sind breiter, Blatt-Rähmchen dafür höher.
Dadant Blatt ist in Europa weit verbreitet, außer in Deutschland. Hier hat sich das Maß vom US etabliert.
Ich habe lange hin- und herüberlegt welche Abmessung ich nehmen soll. Habe mich anfangs für Blatt entschieden, da ich irgendwo gelesen habe dass die Carnica-Biene lieber höher baut als in die Breite. Ich muss aber sagen dass es der Carnica total egal ist ob sie nun in einer Blatt oder US-Beute wohnt. Ihr gefällt es in beiden Beute ausgesprochen gut. :D
Nun habe ich ausschließlich Dadant US-Beuten (bis auf eine Blatt + Ablegerkasten), aus verschiedenen Gründen:
1. Es gibt mehr und einfacher Zubehör für die US-Version. Mein Händler um die Ecke z. B. hat nur die US-Ausführung.
2. Verkaufe ich Ableger um einiges leichter, da hier alle Dadantler ausschließlich US haben.
3. Ist das Leergewicht der US-Beute geringer, da viele Beutenbauer dieselbe Abmessung der verschiedenen Beuten haben um mit den Aufsätzen der beiden Beuten kompatibel zu sein. Somit sind die Blatt-Beuten nicht nur höher, sondern auch Stärker von der Holzstärke. (siehe z. B. Holtermann)

LG
Nobs

Re: Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Mo 7. Nov 2016, 14:13
von BeeTV84
Also in Dadant Blatt passen auch 12 Rähmchen ? Das wäre mir jetzt neu :shock:

Re: Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Do 10. Nov 2016, 07:36
von Janos

Re: Dadant Blatt, Dadant US Bitte um hilfe

BeitragVerfasst: Di 22. Nov 2016, 09:40
von Nobs
Ja, ich habe unter anderem Dadant Blatt. Das ist genauso aufgebaut wie Dadant US, nur eben mit einer anderen Abmessung.
Bei Dadant US hast du Rähmchen mit der Abmessung 482 x 285 und bei Blatt mit 470 x 300.
Beide gibt es in der Ausführung mit 10, wie auch mit 12 Rähmchen.